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am pleased to have finished the istanbul-brest regatta. thanks to the organizers. question: what's next? would it be possible to get a preview of the upcoming regattas for 2009-2010? would be nice to plan the racing schedule, in view of other commitments (family, dog, work, et cetera). cheers, henry
Next race starts tomorrow :-) We do not all that long planning. All users are welcome to suggest races. Keep sailing

/Jakob
...one of the guys behind the game...
thanks for the info. lets do sydney-hobart in real time. around xmas or new year, i believe. henry
here is a long shot. the clipper race from china to london. can we simulate a square rigger? i have some books on the sailing performance of clipper ships. such as ariel, taiping, flying cloud and cutty sark. how about it? henry
Good idea. Gimme the polar :-)

/Jakob
...one of the guys behind the game...
Aargh!!! Good idea. Lets wager some virtual loot me maties. My first wager is half of my hidden Herion :)
ONLY HALF!!!!

What am I going to do with 5 tonnes when I really need 10 ?
If it breaks, it's not strong enough!
deal. i will dig out my clipper books. how do you want the polar input? excel table, i suppose? lets use regular email for that. mine is heffe@arcada.fi.
Here is the famous Tea Clipper route from China to London, as used in the legendary races of the 1860s.
The standard route: From Foochow (26 5 S, 119 20 E, nowadays called Minhow), starting at the bar (reef) at Turnabout Island (25.433 N, 119.93 E) off Maitan Tao Island, thru the Formosa Channel either way past the Paracel or Spratly islands (16 30 N, 112 E), down the Cochin China coast, over to the Borneo coast, thru Api Passage (2 N, 109.25 E) between Borneo and the S. Natuna Islands, (some preferred to go between the N. and S. Natunas), thru Stoltzes Passage in the Gaspar Straits (2.7 S, 107.25 E), (some chickened out by going thru Karimata Strait closer to Borneo), south to Anjer (6 10 S, 105 50 E) at NW Java Head thru Sunda Strait (between Sumatra and Java), towards and past Mauritius, south of Madagascar, south of Cape of Good Hope, either side of St. Helena, either side of Ascension, past Cap Verde, west of Flores on the Azores (, passing Bishop Rock and the Lizard, into English Channel, taking pilot at Beachy Head (50 44 N, 0 16 E), Dungeness (50 55 N 0 58 E) or Deal (51 14 N 1 24 E), for a tow up the River Thames to the East India docks of London. (More seldom to Plymouth, Falmouth, Liverpool).

My proposal for a simplified course description: start over a line laid E-W off Maitan Tao Island in Fukien, China, thru Sunda Strait between Sumatra and Java, passing S of Cape Good Hope, finish over a line laid E-W off Deal in Kent.
Material for a Polar Chart for Clipper Ships. I have found some useful sources. I need a week or two to convert this into numerical form.

L pages 62-63. Log of the Swordfish gives daily distances under varying weather conditions, but no wind direction. Course can be figured from daily coordinates. Moderately useful.
L p 260-263. Log of the Thermopyle. Gives wind directions and strengths, could be a base for a polar chart. VERY USEFUL.
L p 269-285. Very detailed log of the Ariel. Foochow to London, 1866. VERY USEFUL.
C p 317-323. Log of Cutty Sark with daily course, wind speed, wind direction, distance made. THIS IS THE BEST TO USE FOR A POLAR CHART.

My sources:
Lubbock, Basil: The China Clippers. Brown, Son & Ferguson, Glasgow, 1973. First edition printed 1919.
Lubbock, Basil: The Log of the Cutty Sark. Brown, Son & Ferguson, Glasgow, 1954. First edition printed 1945.

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